there, and economists have thought that hurricane sandy would have an adverse affect, and it hurt some, but there's so much going on that the economy -- >> is it possible we haven't seen the full impact of hurricane sandy, that we still might see some of those jobs lost, and it just hasn't been the numbers have not caught up to it yet to the reality? >> absolutely right. we do have to wait another month to get the full picture of it, but it was interesting that we saw initial claims for unemployment compensation initially spiked up right after sandy, and then they began to go down, and so i suspect next month there will be some effect. >> how strong is this job growth? does this really get us out of the recession conditions for so long? >> interesting question. it has the potential to do that, because think of this. we've had sandy, and we have all of this debate going on over the fiscal cliff, that's driving us all crazy, right? >> yes, it is. >> and what it's also doing is that it has gotten the corporate seblgtor in a position where they're not vin investing. they're waiting to see